Margaret Jameson: Then I went to a football game with Helen Gordon. And this later became quite an issue because when I was sitting up in Columbus [Mississippi], I thought the . . . I mean the football tickets. I thought, "Oh my goodness, I have to have football tickets!"

I’ve been in schools like Vanderbilt with football, Texas with football . . . but I was always given football tickets. But you did not give anybody a ticket here. And so I called up and said that I would like to have two football tickets and . . . That was later, after I was appointed, of course. I was talking to somebody, whoever was the business manager, and he said, well, they would work it out and that the price would be so and so. Well, I assumed that was the way it was done, so it was okay.

Well, this created the biggest to do you've ever heard of because, they realized that I, as a new dean, had to have comparable tickets to the Dean of Men and to the outgoing dean. But she was not going to give up her tickets. I remember that. So I now sit opposite, on the fifty-yard line, the Dean of Men is on one side of the aisle on that between the . . . and then I'm over on the other side. Those were not the seats, though, that I was given at first, but they . . . I was in the same section they were, and of course I wouldn't have known to question it.

Well, anyhow, I went to the football game that afternoon, or that night, after that dinner in the Union. And I remember that Helen Gordon and I went together. Now I don't know who normally went with her, but she did take me to the game, and Mrs. Long, the senator's wife, was sitting in front.

Pamela Dean: Katherine Long.

Jameson: Yeah, Katherine Long was in front. I remember I met her, and later we always when . . . as we've seen each other she always remembers that she saw me at that football game.

-- Margaret Jameson, interviewed by Pamela Dean, 1993